June 7 · Co-designing silicon yields 1.4x performance
Good morning.Teams are bypassing traditional bottlenecks by scaling compute and simulation in unexpected places.

Microsoft AI is co-designing frontier models directly for custom silicon, yielding a 1.4x performance-per-watt improvement over standard hardware. Targeting specific workloads like agentic coding compounds hardware-level cost savings with model-level efficiency gains, proving that standard GPU pairings leave massive optimizations on the table.
Ship This Week
Delegating boilerplate to Codex and strictly verifying only core ML logic like auxiliary losses cut paper reproduction time from 3 weeks to 2 days.
agents
Agent-driven ML paper reproduction
Use Codex to write boilerplate while strictly verifying only the core ML logic like losses and batch shapes.
Watch the Frontier
Instead of complex reward models for credit assignment, Cursor uses an evaluator to inject text hints into trajectories, directly downweighing error probabilities.
fine_tuning
Targeted RL via hint token injection
Cursor solves RL credit assignment by injecting hint tokens into trajectories to downweigh specific error probabilities.
Today's AI Patterns
Capability shifts and emerging build patterns from this week's shows.
agents
Progressive tool disclosure in multimodal harnesses
Use progressive disclosure of tools within a multimodal harness to maintain token efficiency while executing complex plans.
agents
Live notebook kernel agent context
Connect coding agents directly to live notebook kernels to provide access to runtime state and visual outputs.
infra
Silicon-model co-design for inference
Co-optimizing frontier models directly for custom silicon yields compounding performance-per-watt improvements over standard hardware.
fine_tuning
Targeted RL via hint token injection
Cursor solves RL credit assignment by injecting hint tokens into trajectories to downweigh specific error probabilities.
prompting
Strictly behavioral constitutional AI
Removing philosophical speculation from a model's constitution prevents it from internalizing unpredictable, anthropomorphized behaviors.
agents
Agent-driven ML paper reproduction
Use Codex to write boilerplate while strictly verifying only the core ML logic like losses and batch shapes.
agents
CLI-driven agent tool execution
Replace token-heavy headless browsers with native CLI tools for agentic system administration.
infra
Change data capture for AI context lakes
Use change data capture (CDC) instead of bulk copying to feed enterprise data into AI context windows.
product
Interview-hydrated user simulation
Simulating niche user preferences works better when hydrated with unstructured interview transcripts rather than structured behavioral data.
infra
Sequestered open-source model routing
Route highly critical proprietary code through an internal, sequestered open-source model to prevent IP leakage.
infra
Top-down scaling law debugging
Debug discontinuous scaling behaviors by isolating the emergent phenomenon in simplified toy models rather than assuming it only exists at scale.
fine_tuning
Avoiding distillation for frontier models
Training from scratch avoids the performance ceiling inherent in distilling from a superior teacher model.
agents
MCP servers for agent tool authorization
Use Model Context Protocol (MCP) servers to handle tool discoverability and authorization instead of raw API calls.
fine_tuning
Physics-constrained RL environments
Offload physics constraints from base model training into a reinforcement learning environment using a Python REPL.
fine_tuning
Frontier trace distillation for 5B models
Collect execution traces from frontier models to build reinforcement learning environments that hill-climb smaller 5B reasoning models for specialized tasks.
fine_tuning
Anti-spike targeted fine-tuning
Fill capability holes with targeted data instead of using RLVR for subjective domains.
infra
Massive test-time compute scaling
Scale inference compute to allow models to generate 125-page chains of thought for frontier math problems.
retrieval
High-volume agentic retrieval
Configure search APIs to return 1,000+ results for agentic research tasks instead of the standard top 10.
product
Day-one value threshold for AI prototypes
Discard and rebuild AI prototypes that fail to show immediate value rather than attempting incremental fixes.
agents
Agentic DevOps for physical infrastructure management
Replace manual DevOps email triage with an agentic system, shifting human engineers from ticket resolution to token-budget management.
infra
Agent-generated CUDA kernels
Write a slow PyTorch unit test, then use an agent to generate the optimized CUDA kernel.
Capability Watch
New model behaviors and tool patterns showing up across multiple shows.
agents
Agents master live runtime environments
Coding agents are moving beyond static file-system context and headless browsers. By connecting directly to live notebook kernels and native CLI tools, autonomous systems can now inspect runtime state, capture visual outputs, and execute token-efficient commands without triggering anti-scraping protections.
infra
Infrastructure adapts to massive context demands
The false data gravity created by bulk-copy pipelines is breaking down. Teams are implementing change data capture to feed continuous updates into centralized lakes, while sequestering open-source models internally to safely route highly critical proprietary code without risking IP leakage.
fine_tuning
RL environments replace static datasets
Standard pre-training is proving too slow for complex constraints. Builders are offloading physics rules and domain logic into custom reinforcement learning environments, using execution traces from massive frontier models to continuously hill-climb smaller reasoning specialists.
Operator Bets
What practitioners are actually shipping with — frameworks, stack picks.
Speculative constitutions wirehead creators
Including philosophical speculation about an AI's welfare in its constitution causes unpredictable anthropomorphization. Treat the constitution strictly as a behavioral rulebook to ensure the model remains a controllable tool.
Distillation structurally caps model potential
Distilling a base model using outputs from a superior teacher forces the student to fit the teacher's distribution. Training from scratch avoids this performance ceiling.
Building is no longer the bottleneck
Traditional software teams stick with prototypes assuming incremental builds will fix them. If an AI prototype cannot prove actual value on day one, discard it entirely and rebuild from scratch.
Stack Drops
Tools, libraries, and infra dropping into operator workflows now.
Marimo pair skill
Connects coding agents directly to live notebook kernels for runtime state access.
Model Context Protocol
Handles tool discoverability and user-level authorization between agents and target APIs.
Exa agentic retrieval
Configures search APIs to return 1,000+ results with granular filtering toggles for research tasks.
From the Conversations

No Priors: Artificial Intelligence | Technology | Startups
Progressive tool disclosure in multimodal harnesses
The Rise of the Full-Stack Builder and Hyper-Leveraged Generalist with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
Jun 4, 2026 · 42m · 3quotes pulled
▶ Listen“All of them are multi-model harnesses with tools access so that you can do this progressive disclosure of tools even so that they're token efficient.”

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
Live notebook kernel agent context
998: In Case You Missed It in May 2026
Jun 5, 2026 · 27m · 3quotes pulled
▶ Listen“At the moment, Claude has, or your agent has access to running code inside the kernel. So if you've made a change, it can grab any state that it wants inside the notebook. It can see your cells. It can take screenshots of cells now and look at those.”

Strictly behavioral constitutional AI
Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your job
Jun 8, 2026 · 1h 19m · 3quotes pulled
▶ Listen“In that manual, they actually speculate about Claude's welfare... Claude has then gone and internalized those ideas about itself in its own training. But second, I think this is highly undesirable.”
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The Rise of the Full-Stack Builder and Hyper-Leveraged Generalist with Microsoft CEO Satya NadellaWhat does it mean for a business to truly operate at the AI frontier? In a special crossover episode at Microsoft Build, Sarah Guo and Elad Gil team up with Latent Space host “swyx” to talk with Microsoft Chairman and CEO Satya Nadella about the future of AI platforms, software development, and the tech ecosystem. Satya reflects on the latest breakthroughs from Microsoft Build, the strategic shift toward multi-model harnesses, and why private evaluations (evals) are now a company’s most important intellectual property. They also discuss how autonomous AI agents are reshaping the role of software engineers, the durability of SaaS business models, and why showing communities the ROI on data centers is so critical. Plus, Satya shares his thoughts on the economic and societal impacts of the token economy, as well as the future of AI-driven education startups. Sign up for new podcasts every week. Email feedback to show@no-priors.com Follow us on Twitter: @NoPriorsPod | @Saranormous | @EladGil | @satyanadella | @Microsoft | @latentspacepod | @swyx Chapters: 00:00 – Satya Nadella Introduction 01:48 – Reflections from Microsoft Build 03:12 – Microsoft’s AI Training Strategy 05:48 – Complexity of Real-World Deployment of AI 07:33 – Augmenting Human Capital 09:37 – Harnesses for Enterprise 11:49 – Developer Value 15:09 – Can Everybody Operate at the Frontier with Their Frontier Intelligence? 15:51 – Modern Definition of IP 17:38 – Future of Vendor vs. Enterprise Agents 21:48 – Near-Term Predictions on Model Pricing 24:02 – Durability of SaaS 25:58 – What Satya’s Building 28:18 – Future of Engineering Roles 30:54 – How Microsoft Can Be More Ambitious 34:36 – Data Centers and Community Impact 38:01 – AI’s Impact on Society 39:52 - AI and Education 42:28 – Conclusion
▶ ListenSuper Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn
998: In Case You Missed It in May 2026In this month’s episode of ICYMI, Jon Krohn explores how AI agents are simultaneously creating new risks and unlocking powerful new ways of working with data. Hear from Anneka Gupta, Cal Al-Dhubaib, Trevor Manz, Jazmia Henry, Jeremy Mumford, and Jacob Miller, discussing why the old cybersecurity playbook breaks down in the age of Claude Mythos, how the notebook became an AI agent’s working memory, what it really takes to build a foundation model from scratch, and why failing slowly is the most expensive mistake an AI team can make. Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/998 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (00:40) Why Claude Mythos Changes Everything About Cybersecurity (08:11) Why Your Notebook Should Be Your Agent’s Working Memory (13:19) What It Actually Takes to Build a Foundation Model From Scratch (20:46) Failing Slowly Is the Most Expensive AI Mistake
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Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is near, but won't take your jobToday I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. This is a real burner of an episode. We covered everything from his approach to training new models to his criticisms of Anthropic talking about Claude as though it is conscious. Of course, we also talked about Microsoft’s relationship with OpenAI, how Mustafa is thinking about all the negative polling and political pushback around AI right now, and whether any of the consumer products are good enough to overcome it. Like I said, it’s a burner. Links: Microsoft and OpenAI broke up — now they’re ready to fight | The Verge Microsoft Build 2026: The 7 biggest announcements | The Verge Microsoft’s first advanced reasoning AI is here | The Verge Microsoft’s new ‘superintelligence’ game plan is all about business | The Verge Here’s how the new Microsoft and OpenAI deal breaks down | The Verge Microsoft AI chief says 18 months until white-collar tasks automated by AI | FT Subscribe to The Verge to access the ad-free version of Decoder! Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Decoder is produced by Kate Cox and Nick Statt and edited by Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?<p>Economics of AGI episode w <a target="_blank" href="https://www.aleximas.com/">Alex Imas</a> and <a target="_blank" href="https://philiptrammell.com/">Phil Trammell</a>.</p><p>There’s a bunch of important questions about how we deal with AI that only economics can answer.</p><p>What is the optimal way to tax and redistribute the wealth that will be generated? How should countries not in the AI supply chain index into the gains? Is there any world where inequality doesn’t explode?</p><p>It might seem like these questions have obvious answers, but the first thing economics teaches you is that your intuitions can often be entirely wrong.</p><p>It was very helpful to chat through these things with Alex and Phil.</p><p>Watch on <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/Jj-kBHzUohs">YouTube</a>; read the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/alex-imas-phil-trammell">transcript</a>.</p><p><strong>Sponsors</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://janestreet.com/dwarkesh">Jane Street</a> invests heavily in turning smart people into exceptional researchers and engineers. In addition to their apprenticeship model, Jane Street runs lectures and bootcamps in their in-office classrooms -- managers clear their teams’ schedules to encourage attendance. If you’d like to work at a place that takes learning this seriously, Jane Street is hiring. Check out their open roles at <a target="_blank" href="https://janestreet.com/dwarkesh">janestreet.com/dwarkesh</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://gemini.google">Google’s Gemini Omni</a> has incredible video editing capabilities -- you can upload a video and have Omni change the background, adjust lighting, or add specific elements. But Omni is also a preview of how future frontier models will be trained -- fully multimodal on both input and output. You can try it yourself in the Gemini app at <a target="_blank" href="https://gemini.google">gemini.google</a> or in Flow at <a target="_blank" href="https://flow.google">flow.google</a></p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://cursor.com/dwarkesh">Cursor</a> used targeted RL with textual feedback to help train their Composer 2.5 model. One of their researchers, Sasha Rush, gave me an impromptu blackboard lecture to explain how this form of on-policy self-distillation works -- I posted the full thing on X. If you want to try Composer 2.5, go to <a target="_blank" href="https://cursor.com/dwarkesh">cursor.com/dwarkesh</a></p><p>Timestamps</p><p>(00:00:00) – Will capital share increase?</p><p>(00:19:36) – Messy Middle scenario</p><p>(00:25:57) – How to tax and redistribute AI wealth</p><p>(00:30:02) – Why demand collapse is unlikely</p><p>(00:39:26) – Human employees would be hard to integrate into the machine economy</p><p>(00:43:08) – What if some humans (or AIs) value wealth accumulation intrinsically?</p><p>(01:01:28) – What should developing countries do?</p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at <a href="https://www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4">www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe</a>
▶ ListenUnsupervised Learning with Jacob Effron
Ep 89: AI Research Legend’s Honest Assessment of Where We AreThis episode with Lukasz Kaiser, co-author of the seminal "Attention Is All You Need" transformer paper and former researcher at both Google Brain and OpenAI, is a wide-ranging conversation about the fundamental limits of current AI architectures and whether transformers will continue to dominate or eventually give way to something new. Lukasz brings a rare dual perspective: deep belief in how far the current paradigm has taken us (he's an enthusiastic daily Codex user who's seen 10x productivity gains in his own research), while maintaining genuine intellectual humility about whether transformers can truly generalize the way humans do. The episode weaves together questions about data efficiency, the non-verifiable RL frontier, the coding agent revolution, the open vs. closed source gap, and what the next architectural leap might look like: all filtered through the lens of someone who helped build the foundation the entire field is standing on.
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AI Agents and the Fight for Customer DataMartin Casado speaks with George Fraser, cofounder and CEO of Fivetran, about the future of data infrastructure in the age of AI. The conversation covers Fivetran’s merger with dbt, the changing role of data platforms, and why Fraser believes many companies are overestimating the threat AI poses to enterprise software. They discuss open data access, the backlash against AI agents accessing systems of record, and why businesses still need centralized data foundations even as agent-based workflows become more common. Along the way, Fraser shares his views on data gravity, coding agents, enterprise AI adoption, and how AI is changing the way software companies build and operate products.
▶ ListenTraining Data
Knowing what your customers want, all the time: Listen Labs' Alfred WahlforssAlfred Wahlforss, co-founder and CEO of Listen Labs, is building an AI agent that interviews your customers at a scale no focus group ever could—thousands of voice conversations at once, drawn from an audience of 30 million people. A year after launch, Listen serves hundreds of Fortune 100s to Startups including Microsoft, Google, NBC Universal, P&G, Anthropic, Cursor, and Cognition. Alfred explains the counterintuitive finding underneath it all: people are often more honest with an AI than a human interviewer, opening up to a non-judgmental entity that costs less and never makes them feel rushed. He walks through why interview transcripts—not credit card data or behavioral logs—turn out to be the richest fuel for predicting how customers will behave, how Listen back-tests its simulations to know which questions it can and can't answer, and why 80% of the company's engineering goes into building the right audience. As AGI makes building trivial, Alfred argues the scarce resource becomes knowing what to build. That's the loop Listen wants to own.
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Microsoft Chases the Frontier, SUNO on Fire, Project Solara | Mikey Shulman, Samir Chaudry, Tom Farley, Nikesh Arora, Henri Stern, Alex Good<p></p><ul><li>(00:35) - Microsoft Chases the Frontier </li> <li>(05:00) - Project Solara </li> <li>(16:19) - Mikey Shulman, representing Suno, discusses the company's recent achievement of raising over $400 million, led by Bond, highlighting significant traction and progress in user engagement and retention. He emphasizes the importance of retention as a key metric, noting that improvements in the product have led to increased user engagement and a broader audience. Shulman also addresses the evolving perception of AI-generated music, suggesting that as more people experience the product, acceptance grows, and he envisions a future where AI tools like Suno become integral to creative processes in the music industry. </li> <li>(35:20) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions </li> <li>(43:28) - Samir Chaudry is an American entrepreneur and co-host of the YouTube channel "Colin and Samir," where he interviews creators and discusses the creator economy. In the conversation, he explores the evolving collaboration between YouTube creators and Hollywood, emphasizing the emergence of internet-native filmmakers and the significance of community-driven intellectual property. He highlights the success of horror and animation genres on YouTube, noting their potential for adaptation into feature films, and underscores the importance of development support for creators transitioning to larger projects. </li> <li>(01:08:47) - Tom Farley, CEO of Bullish and former President of the NYSE Group, discusses his career trajectory from traditional finance to the digital asset sector, highlighting his early investment in Coinbase and the evolving role of blockchain in financial markets. He reflects on the maturation of the cryptocurrency industry, noting its transition from speculative hype to a more stable and institutionalized market, and emphasizes the potential for blockchain technology to revolutionize global securities by enhancing transparency and efficiency. Farley also addresses the challenges and opportunities in integrating digital assets with traditional financial systems, underscoring the importance of regulatory clarity and technological innovation in driving future growth. </li> <li>(01:32:48) - Nikesh Arora, an Indian-American business executive born in 1968, has been the chairman and CEO of Palo Alto Networks since June 2018, following senior roles at Google and SoftBank. In the conversation, Arora discusses the challenges AI models like Anthropic's Mythos face in cybersecurity, emphasizing issues such as high false positive rates and the lack of real-time enforcement capabilities. He also highlights the importance of focusing on detection and remediation over mere protection, given the evolving AI-driven threat landscape. </li> <li>(01:56:04) - Henri Stern, co-founder and CEO of Privy, a blockchain infrastructure company, discusses his participation in the Money 2020 fintech conference in Amsterdam, where Privy launched new products in partnership with Deel to enable contractors to receive stablecoin payments globally. He highlights the growing adoption of stablecoin cards that allow users to spend stablecoins directly through traditional payment networks like Visa and MasterCard, facilitating seamless transactions for merchants. Stern also notes the significant adoption of stablecoins in regions like Latin America and Southeast Asia, while acknowledging the regulatory restrictions in countries such as China that limit stablecoin usage. </li> <li>(02:11:13) - Alex Good, a former Army officer and experienced professional in finance and technology, has transitioned into the crypto and AI sectors, focusing on developing protocols that integrate these fields. He discusses the challenges at the intersection of crypto and AI, including increased hacking incidents due to AI's ability to evaluate human-written code, and emphasizes the need for secure protocols to prevent unauthorized transactions. Good also shares his "doom thesis," suggesting that AI might accelerate the emergence of surveillance states, prompting capital to move into privacy-focused cryptocurrencies like Zcash.</li> </ul><p><br></p><p>TBPN is made possible by:</p><p>Ramp - https://ramp.com</p><p>Public - https://public.com</p><p>Cisco - https://www.cisco.com</p><p>Console - https://www.console.com</p><p>CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com</p><p>Figma - https://www.figma.com</p><p>MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com</p><p>NYSE - https://www.nyse.com</p><p>Railway - https://railway.com</p><p>Shopify - https://www.shopify.com/</p><p><br></p><p>Follow TBPN: </p><p>https://TBPN.com</p><p>https://x.com/tbpn</p><p>https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231</p><p>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive</p>
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OpenAI's Dan Roberts: Why AI Can Now Make Discoveries<p>Are we witnessing the first real signs of AI becoming a scientist? In this episode of The MAD Podcast, Matt Turck sits down with Dan Roberts, lead of the Foundations of Reinforcement Learning team at OpenAI, to explore one of the biggest shifts happening in AI: the rise of reasoning models, test-time compute, and reinforcement learning as engines of scientific discovery. Dan brings a rare perspective - from theoretical physics, black holes, quantum information, and deep learning theory - to explain how models are learning to “think,” why language may be such a powerful foundation for intelligence, what recent AI math breakthroughs really mean, and whether we are beginning to see AI systems that can contribute to science itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>(00:00) Intro: AI's wild week in mathematics</p><p>(01:21) What OpenAI's Foundations of RL team does</p><p>(03:08) Dan's journey: from black holes and quantum gravity to frontier AI</p><p>(07:04) Are AI systems becoming useful for real science?</p><p>(08:21) The AI math moment: Erdős, OpenAI, DeepMind, and Anthropic</p><p>(08:52) Why the OpenAI result was an act of exploration</p><p>(10:25) OpenAI vs. DeepMind: informal reasoning vs. formal proof</p><p>(12:13) RL 101: learning by doing, not just watching</p><p>(15:10) Why reinforcement learning works</p><p>(15:58) How RL breaks: sparse feedback and long-horizon tasks</p><p>(17:03) RLHF: how human feedback shaped early language models</p><p>(18:48) Move 37, self-play, and the search for novel strategies</p><p>(22:16) Explore vs. exploit in scientific discovery</p><p>(24:49) Why RL may now be "the cake," not the cherry on top</p><p>(25:46) Why RL started working with large language models</p><p>(27:29) Is RL "sucking supervision through a straw"?</p><p>(28:47) Why language may be the grounding layer for intelligence</p><p>(31:46) A contrarian take on the Bitter Lesson</p><p>(32:41) What test-time compute actually is</p><p>(34:50) How RL gives models the ability to think</p><p>(35:40) Verifiable rewards, math, coding, and the messy real world</p><p>(38:00) What physics can teach us about AI</p><p>(42:08) Is there a thermodynamics of AI?</p><p>(43:08) From Erdős problems to Einstein-level AI</p><p>(45:16) Is AI already doing original science?</p><p>(45:51) How far are we from AI automating AI research?</p><p>(47:41) Why Dan is excited about the future of science</p>
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How a reasoning model cracked an 80-year-old math problem - Episode 20<p>Last month AI found something mathematicians had missed for decades. Reasoning researchers Alexander Wei, Hongxun Wu, and Lijie Chen join the podcast to discuss how a general-purpose model helped disprove an 80-year-old conjecture from famed mathematician Paul Erdős. They walk through the moment the result started looking real, what it took to verify the proof, and what’s happened since sharing the discovery with the world. They also explore what this means for the future of math and for researchers learning to work with AI.</p><br><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><br><p>0:44 AI and the International Math Olympiad and International Olympiad of Informatics</p><p>6:35 An OpenAI model disproves the Erdős unit distance conjecture</p><p>8:33 Running the model and checking the proof</p><p>11:04 Why general models matter for discovery</p><p>15:55 Creativity, tools, and how the proof worked</p><p>18:25 Why AI should feel empowering for mathematicians</p><p>22:31 Advice for researchers using AI</p><p>27:24 What comes next for math and AI research</p><p>37:30 Cryptography, quantum computing, and the future</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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Building Search for AI Agents with Exa CEO Will BrykSarah Wang speaks with Exa cofounder and CEO Will Bryk about building search infrastructure for the AI era. The conversation covers Exa’s origins, why traditional search engines were not designed for AI agents, and how search changes when the user is no longer a human but an autonomous system. They discuss retrieval, agent workflows, coding agents, data access, and why search may become a foundational layer for the emerging agent economy. Along the way, Bryk shares his views on AI-native products, the future of information discovery, and why some of the most important problems in technology can ultimately be framed as search problems.