May 23 · Declarative APIs cut 1,000 lines to 50
Good morning.Teams are aggressively constraining agent action spaces to guarantee deterministic outcomes.

Constraining coding agents to high-level declarative APIs reduces error-prone generation targets from 1,000 lines of raw PyTorch down to 50 lines of simple calls. Jure Leskovec reports this approach entirely eliminates subtle data science bugs like temporal information leakage during complex enterprise workflows.
Ship This Week
Exposing a custom Marimo linter to Claude 4 via a `uv` tool call allowed the agent to auto-heal, solving 60% of environment-specific syntax errors.
agents
Environment-specific agent linters
Build custom linters for your specific environment to let agents auto-heal instead of relying on complex prompt engineering.
Watch the Frontier
OpenAI's Yann Dubois notes SFT actively trains models to hallucinate unknown facts; RL fixes this by sampling only from the model's existing pre-trained knowledge.
fine_tuning
RL over SFT for hallucination reduction
Replacing supervised fine-tuning with reinforcement learning prevents models from learning to confidently fabricate unknown facts.
Today's AI Patterns
Capability shifts and emerging build patterns from this week's shows.
agents
Environment-specific agent linters
Build custom linters for your specific environment to let agents auto-heal instead of relying on complex prompt engineering.
fine_tuning
RL over SFT for hallucination reduction
Replacing supervised fine-tuning with reinforcement learning prevents models from learning to confidently fabricate unknown facts.
agents
Declarative APIs for coding agents
Constrain coding agents to high-level declarative APIs to prevent subtle data science bugs like temporal information leakage.
agents
Two-pronged admin and user agent architecture
Separate tool creation from tool execution by using an admin agent to define strict tools that a user-facing agent is constrained to use.
agents
State-aware meta-agent for workflow deduplication
Use a meta-agent with full contextual awareness of historical workflows to prevent users from generating duplicate automations.
fine_tuning
Classification-only fine-tuning constraint
Restrict fine-tuning to massive-scale, static classification tasks to avoid being obsoleted by frontier model releases.
evals
Multi-language formal verification via Strata
Use the open-source Strata intermediate representation to translate Python, Java, and Rust into Lean for formal verification.
fine_tuning
Training on unpublished negative data
Eli Lilly trains its molecular models on decades of failed experiments to map the non-viable chemical space.
evals
Game manual in-context evals
Evaluate an LLM's meta-learning and adaptation by putting a complex game manual in the prompt and testing its gameplay.
product
Template-constrained generative UI
Instead of generating apps from scratch, Google's Canvas classifies intent to load pre-built UI templates and uses the LLM solely to populate data.
agents
Emergent agent skill synthesis
Hermes Agent uses self-reflection prompts to automatically synthesize and save successful multi-step workflows as reusable skills.
evals
E-values for anytime eval inference
Use e-values instead of p-values to allow continuous peeking and dynamic stopping in evaluation pipelines without breaking statistical guarantees.
agents
Restricting LLMs to workflow orchestration
Eli Lilly restricts LLMs to generic workflow orchestration, routing actual molecular design to dedicated diffusion and generative flow models.
evals
Semantic evals for design agents
Build rigorous evals around component semantics and auto-layout rules to prevent design agents from generating unusable slop.
fine_tuning
GRPO for long-rollout agentic RL
Scale SFT to establish strong priors, then use GRPO to apply relative rewards to full agentic rollouts.
fine_tuning
High-density mid-training before post-training
Overweight high-quality reasoning data in a mid-training phase to shift the base model's distribution before RL.
fine_tuning
Domain-specific RL for coding models
Cursor achieved Pareto dominance by applying 3-4 weeks of reinforcement learning on their proprietary coding dataset over the Kami K.25 base model.
product
Fast models for exploratory flow
Use faster, less capable models for exploratory coding to maintain mental context and prevent over-trusting the AI.
prompting
In-context learning for relational subgraphs
Use a pre-trained relational transformer to perform in-context learning on database subgraphs without gradient updates.
infra
Accelerator-routed decode phase
Extend the useful life of older GPUs by routing the decode phase to domain-specific accelerators.
agents
Massive multi-agent security harness
Microsoft's Emdash beats single-model approaches by coordinating over 100 specialized agents across a mix of frontier and smaller models.
Capability Watch
New model behaviors and tool patterns showing up across multiple shows.
agents
Agents shift from monolithic models to specialized multi-agent harnesses
Single-model approaches are plateauing on complex tasks like cybersecurity and coding. Operators are deploying coordinated teams of specialized agents—mixing frontier models for reasoning with smaller models for narrow jobs—to achieve higher accuracy and lower false-positive rates.
evals
Continuous evaluation pipelines adopt anytime inference
Classical p-values break when teams continuously monitor evidence and stop early. Evaluation pipelines are shifting to e-values, which mathematically permit dynamic stopping and continuous peeking without losing statistical control over the results.
fine_tuning
High-density mid-training phases emerge before RL
Pre-training on the entire internet dilutes high-signal reasoning data. Teams are inserting a mid-training phase to overweight verified knowledge and code, shifting the base model's priors toward reasoning before applying reinforcement learning.
Operator Bets
What practitioners are actually shipping with — frameworks, stack picks.
Fine-tuning is for massive-scale classification only
Jeremy Mumford bets that fine-tuning should be strictly reserved for massive-scale classification tasks. Defaulting to off-the-shelf models and prompt engineering prevents custom models from being immediately obsoleted by the next frontier release.
LLMs cannot perform direct scientific reasoning
Thomas Fuchs bets that LLMs are fundamentally unsuited for direct scientific reasoning due to language constraints. Eli Lilly restricts them strictly to generic workflow orchestration, routing actual molecular design to domain-specific physical models.
Fast models preserve exploratory developer flow
Vincent Warmerdam bets that faster, technically inferior models are better for exploratory coding. Near-instant generation preserves developer flow while known model limitations force the human to remain actively skeptical.
Stack Drops
Tools, libraries, and infra dropping into operator workflows now.
Strata
Open-source intermediate representation that translates Python, Java, and Rust into Lean for formal verification.
Canvas
Intent-classification system that loads pre-built UI templates and uses LLMs solely to populate data.
Composer 2.5
Pareto-dominant coding assistant built via targeted reinforcement learning on the Kami K.25 base model.
From the Conversations

The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck
RL over SFT for hallucination reduction
OpenAI's Yann Dubois: Why AI Progress Suddenly Feels Real
May 21, 2026 · 1h 13m · 3quotes pulled
▶ Listen“SFT is going to force like Hallucination, while in reinforcement learning given that... you kind of sample from the model in the first place, extremely unlikely that it's sample something that it doesn't know and it's correct.”

Environment-specific agent linters
Agent-Harness.ipynb*
May 20, 2026 · 1h 19m · 2quotes pulled
▶ Listen“what if we make a linter? And the whole point of the linter is it's going to be super Marimo-specific... that solved about 60% of all the problems.”

The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence)
In-context learning for relational subgraphs
Relational Foundation Models for Enterprise Data with Jure Leskovec - #768
May 21, 2026 · 1h 5m · 2quotes pulled
▶ Listen“The system now goes into the database. It extracts a set of labeled in-context examples that then get passed through a pre-trained neural network to make a prediction... in a single forward pass.”
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Agent-Harness.ipynb*<p>One thing that I don’t like about Claude is that you get into this weird mental state: oh, I think I trust the model. Let’s do the slot machine. Hit click, which puts you in an inactive mode of thinking. Maybe it’s better to use a worse model….</p><p><strong>Vincent Warmerdam</strong>, senior data professional and prolific open-source maintainer (some packages with over a million downloads), now Engineer at <strong>marimo</strong>, joins Hugo to talk about how the Python notebook is evolving from a static scratchpad into a working agent harness, and what it takes to stay in the loop as a developer when agents are writing most of the code. This episode was originally a livestream Q&A with the Vanishing Gradients audience.</p><p><strong>We Discuss:</strong></p><p>* <strong>Shared Notebook Canvas</strong>: Notebooks act as a <strong>shared memory space</strong> where agents and humans co-exist, enabling <strong>real-time visual feedback</strong> by direct manipulation of <strong>global state</strong> and <strong>UI elements</strong>;</p><p>* <strong>Speed-of-Thought Models</strong>: Faster, <strong>open-weight models</strong> like <strong>Kimi K2</strong> enhance <strong>exploratory flow</strong> by keeping humans more alert to the code, unlike <strong>frontier models</strong> that can induce passive thinking;</p><p>* <strong>Pi as a Harness</strong>: Vincent favors an agent harness where agents <strong>extend themselves</strong> rather than reach for <strong>MCP</strong>, and where <strong>hooks</strong> can rigidly constrain which files an agent is allowed to read or touch;</p><p>* <strong>Why PRDs Don’t Fit Notebooks</strong>: Notebook work is fundamentally exploratory, so the discipline that works for shipping web apps does not transfer cleanly; the one exception is reproducing a paper;</p><p>* <strong>Interactive Code Review</strong>: <strong>Interactive UIs</strong> (e.g., dragging integers) transform code into a <strong>physical object</strong>, incentivizing developers to actively <strong>review</strong> and understand agent logic;</p><p>* <strong>Modular “Lego” Components</strong>: Provide agents with <strong>high-level, well-tested components</strong> (”Lego” code) instead of raw boilerplate, creating systems that are easier to <strong>debug</strong> and <strong>modulate</strong>;</p><p>* <strong>Algorithm-Driven Visualization</strong>: Let the <strong>algorithm dictate the visualization</strong> needed, rather than choosing visualizations first, revealing the most interesting structures within the data;</p><p>* <strong>Don’t Outsource the Thinking</strong>: <strong>Pen and paper</strong> architectural planning, walks away from the keyboard, and protecting <strong>calm</strong> remain the most effective ways to keep producing good ideas in the age of AI-generated software.</p><p>* <strong>Agent Auto-Healing</strong>: A marimo-specific <strong>linter</strong> solved <strong>60% of agent errors overnight</strong> by letting agents diagnose and fix their own “slop” without complex prompt engineering;</p><p>* <strong>Incremental Generation</strong>: Avoid monolithic LLM outputs; generate code <strong>one to two cells at a time</strong> to prevent laziness and ensure human oversight and learning;</p><p>Vincent closes on the idea that calm, not the latest frontier model, is the most underrated tool for building well, and that we should study LLM output the way chess players studied the engines that beat them.</p><p>Vincent gives several live demos toward the end of the episode. He describes them well enough to follow on audio, but the visuals are worth seeing, <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/h4C4JtqxnaQ">so check out the YouTube version here</a>.</p><p>You can also find the full episode on <a target="_blank" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/3yuz89gqAhcMcdy3SZPe4X">Spotify</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/vanishing-gradients/id1610318868">Apple Podcasts</a>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/live/d4wGcjvXJh0?si=KqnDitiao5XBHFAP">YouTube</a>.</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/9e160f54-1a80-4676-903c-e89890e551ea">You can also interact directly with the transcript here in NotebookLM</a>: If you do so, let us know anything you find in the comments!</p><p>👉 <strong>Want to learn how to apply agentic engineering to the world of data science</strong>? Come build the future of <a target="_blank" href="https://vanishinggradients.short.gy/data-science-agentic"><strong>Agentic Data Science</strong></a> with us in our upcoming course. It’s a live cohort with hands on exercises, capstones, and reusable agent skills, OSS code, and notebooks that will 10x your data science projects. <a target="_blank" href="https://vanishinggradients.short.gy/data-science-agentic"><strong>Sign up here and use the code ADSVG10 for 10% off</strong></a>.👈</p><p>Also join us for Ep. 3<strong> of </strong><strong>Show Us Your Agent Skills</strong><strong>:</strong> <strong>with Vincent, Paul Iusztin (Decoding AI), Eleanor Berger (Elite AI-Assisted Coding), Alan Nichol (Rasa), Nico Gerold (amp), </strong>and<strong> Matthew Honnibal (spaCy, Explosion).</strong></p><p> <a target="_blank" href="https://luma.com/le3m0pni"><strong>Register on lu.ma to join live, or catch the recording afterwards.</strong></a></p><p>LINKS</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentwarmerdam/">Vincent Warmerdam on LinkedIn</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://koaning.io/">Vincent’s website (koaning.io)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://koaning.github.io/wigglystuff/">Wiggly Stuff — Vincent’s widget library</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://marimo.io/gallery">Marimo Gallery</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://skills.sh/">skills.sh</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/">Armin Ronacher on Pi (the minimal agent inside open claw)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://hugobowne.substack.com/p/building-agents-that-build-themselves">Building Agents That Build Themselves — Hugo’s workshop write-up with Ivan Leo</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://hugobowne.substack.com/p/data-science-fiction-winning-at-metrics">Data Science Fiction: Winning at Metrics, Losing at AI Evals — Hugo’s blog post based on Vincent’s talk</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://x.com/isaac_flath/status/2048462111567982823">Isaac Flath’s project (on X)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)">Braid (video game)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://hugobowne.substack.com/p/episode-49-why-data-and-ai-still-9da">Hugo’s earlier podcast with Akshay (marimo)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://maven.com/agentic-ventures/ai-coding?promoCode=HUGO">Elite AI Assisted Coding — Eleanor Berger’s course (Vanishing Gradients community gets 25% off with code “HUGO”)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqJ-Xo29CKyLTjn6z2XwYAw">GameMakers Toolkit (YouTube)</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://luma.com/calendar/cal-8ImWFDQ3IEIxNWk">Upcoming Events on Luma</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@vanishinggradients">Vanishing Gradients on YouTube</a></p><p>* Come build the future of <a target="_blank" href="https://vanishinggradients.short.gy/data-science-agentic">Agentic Data Science</a> with us in our upcoming course (10% off) .</p><p><strong>How You Can Support Vanishing Gradients</strong></p><p>Vanishing Gradients is a podcast, workshop series, blog, and newsletter focused on what you can build with AI right now. 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OpenAI's Yann Dubois: Why AI Progress Suddenly Feels Real<p>What actually goes into pushing the boundaries of post-training and reinforcement learning for frontier models like GPT 5.5? In this episode of The MAD Podcast, Matt Turck sits down with Yann Dubois, lead of OpenAI’s Post-Training Frontiers team, to unpack how reinforcement learning has evolved beyond verifiable math and coding competitions to actively optimize for messy, real-world utility. They explore the delicate balance of test-time compute and model efficiency, the growing challenge of building open-ended AI evaluations, and why the ultimate opportunity for startups lies in mastering "last mile" application harnesses rather than competing on horizontal capabilities.</p><p><br></p><p>(00:00)44 - Cold open</p><p>(00:34) - Intro</p><p>(01:30) - Why recent AI progress feels like a step function</p><p>(04:13) - Model reliability & the rollercoaster of shipping 5.5</p><p>(07:33) - How OpenAI structures vertical and horizontal teams</p><p>(09:49) - Improving model efficiency and test-time compute</p><p>(12:32) - Yann Dubois' journey from Switzerland to OpenAI</p><p>(15:37) - Reasoning in 2026: Real-world utility vs verifiable rewards</p><p>(18:34) - GPT-5.5 Thinking vs Pro: Scaling test-time compute</p><p>(20:09) - How reasoning models become more efficient</p><p>(23:23) - Pre-training scaling and overcoming the data wall</p><p>(27:03) - Multimodal data, synthetic data, and embodied AI</p><p>(31:05) - Demystifying mid-training and post-training</p><p>(37:21) - Does RL create new capabilities in AI?</p><p>(38:53) - The challenges and frontier of scaling RL</p><p>(43:09) - Is building AI models a craft or a strict science?</p><p>(48:21) - How AI models generalize across different domains</p><p>(54:18) - How reinforcement learning cures AI hallucinations</p><p>(56:04) - Negative generalization and conflicting instructions</p><p>(58:05) - Can RL scale to law, medicine, and the broader economy?</p><p>(1:00:19) - The evaluation bottleneck and Model as a Judge</p><p>(1:04:21) - Continuous AI progress & continual learning</p><p>(1:08:49) - Will foundation models eat the agent harness?</p><p>(1:11:23) - Why startups should focus on the last mile of AI</p>
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Relational Foundation Models for Enterprise Data with Jure Leskovec - #768In this episode, Jure Leskovec, co-founder and chief scientist at Kumo and professor of computer science at Stanford, joins us to explore two fronts of his work: AI for science and relational deep learning. We begin with AI Virtual Cell, a multiscale effort to learn data-driven representations from proteins to cells to patients using single-cell RNA-seq data, protein language models like ESM, and structure models like AlphaFold—without hand-encoding biology. Jure then dives into relational deep learning, reframing enterprise databases as graphs and training neural networks directly on raw multi-table data. He explains Kumo’s Relational Foundation Model (RFM2), which performs in-context learning over subgraphs to make accurate predictions on new databases and tasks with no training, and how this approach benchmarks against RelBench and other multi-table datasets. We also discuss real-world deployments at companies like Reddit, DoorDash, and Coinbase, explainability via attention over tables and columns, integration with agentic systems, deployment options, and practical limitations. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/768.
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Rebuilding IT From the Ground Up for the AI Age: Serval's Jake StauchJake Stauch, founder and CEO of Serval, is building a ServiceNow for the AI era. His most contrarian bet is that the product should look like boring old enterprise software, but with unlimited intelligence. Serval's architecture splits work between two agents: an admin agent that uses code generation to spin up workflows from natural language, and a help desk agent that can only act through the tools admins explicitly approve. Jake explains why his team uses OpenAI models for end-user interaction and Anthropic models for code generation, why new model releases sometimes have to be rolled back when prompt tuning breaks, and why he's not worried the foundation labs will come downmarket. He also makes the case for "fewer, better" hiring as the only durable moat in a world where products may need to be rebuilt every six months. Hosted by Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital
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993: How to Build AI-First Organizations, with Jacob Miller and Jeremy MumfordFor years, AI content has come in the form of “use this library, use this tool” tutorials that age out within months. Jacob Miller and Jeremy Mumford, co-authors of the brand new Wiley book Architected Intelligence, wanted to write something different, a guide to the higher-level principles of building AI products and AI-first organizations that will still be relevant in five or ten years. In this episode, the two Pattern engineers walk Jon Krohn through the core ideas of their book: why you should design products and processes so they can be executed by a human, an AI agent, or any hybrid combination; why most companies are still treating hallucinations as a model problem when they’re actually a data curation problem; why the natural progression of AI development goes skills, workflows, agents, not straight to agents; and why velocity, not models or data, is the only durable competitive advantage left. Additional materials: https://www.superdatascience.com/993 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (10:06) The User Agnosticism Tenet (20:02) The Zillow Offers parable (23:25) Why workflows should come before agents (29:57) Why data engineering is the bedrock of AI (52:41) Why velocity is the only durable moat
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Formal Methods as Agent GuardrailsFormal methods are a branch of mathematics and computer science focused on proving the correctness of systems, and they have long promised a more rigorous foundation for software. However, their complexity has kept them confined to a small community of specialists. That is now changing as agentic AI systems take on increasingly autonomous roles. The
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Scaling Scientific R&D with AI Supercomputing Infrastructure — with Thomas Fuchs of Eli Lilly<div>A growing share of pharmaceutical innovation is now constrained not by scientific imagination, but by the infrastructure required to support AI at scale. In this episode of the AI in Business podcast, Thomas Fuchs, Chief AI Officer at Eli Lilly & Company, joins Matthew DeMello to explore how Lilly's new AI supercomputing platform is reshaping scientific discovery and enterprise operations. The conversation examines how large-scale computing enables more advanced models, secure and usable data environments, and faster scientific iteration across the organization. Learn how brands work with Emerj and other Emerj Media options at <a href= "https://emerj.com/advertise/?utm_source=aihl&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=media_kit"> go.emerj.com/partner</a></div>
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Ep 87: Gemini Co-Lead on World Models, RL's Next Domains & Continual LearningOriol Vinyals, VP of Research at Google DeepMind and co-lead of the Gemini program, joins Jacob the day after Google I/O to unpack the research underpinning Google's latest announcements and where frontier AI is heading. The conversation moves from world models (why Google has uniquely bet on them as a path to AGI, what the "GPT moment" for video and images would look like, and how they connect to robotics and simulation) to agents (the Spark release, why the system and model need to be optimized jointly, and why scaffolding will eventually be written by models themselves). Oriol gets into the mechanics of memory in models, drawing on his cognitive neuroscience background to argue that file-system-style non-parametric memory is more practical than baking memory into weights at serving scale. He shares his views on the limits of RL today (LLMs are data-limited in a way that game-playing RL never was), why training on narrow domains like math and code generalizes surprisingly well, and what a true "Move 37" moment for science or ML research would look like. Throughout, he reflects on the unique advantages of being inside Google (TPU co-design, end-to-end revenue stability, the merger of Brain and DeepMind), the trade-offs between focus and exploration in research orgs, and why he believes AGI in some meaningful sense may already be here, even if the goalposts keep moving.
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The post-search Google era beginsBefore we get into this week's tech news, we have some corporate news to discuss, and some very exciting Vergecast news to share. (If you have questions about either one, hit us up: vergecast@theverge.com or 866-VERGE11!) Then, Nilay and David get back into the weeds on all things Google I/O, and in particular the ways AI is changing the Google Search experience. When Gemini can find things for you, make things for you, even buy things for you, are you even searching anymore? Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, SpaceX, the Trump Phone, and some very confusing social networks. Further reading: The future of Google is a search box that does everything Google is building a ‘universal’ AI shopping cart that tracks prices, offers suggestions, and finds discounts Demis Hassabis said this might be the ‘foothills of the singularity.’ What? Google is trying to make deepfake detection more accessible Google Search’s AI evolution includes more ads Google’s AI future demands trust — and your personal data Why does the Googlebook exist? The FCC voted to ‘streamline’ tracking US broadband quality. In SpaceX’s IPO, Elon Musk is the risk factor Spotify is verifying podcasts made by real people too. NBC just got the Trump phone. Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11. (Timestamps are approximate.) 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:00 Vox Media Sale 00:08:00 What Changes for The Verge 00:12:00 Vergecast Goes Daily 00:18:00 Feedback and Launch Details 00:23:00 Google I O Vibe Check 00:24:00 Agents Everywhere at Google 00:25:00 Search Becomes the Platform 00:26:00 Singularity Talk Whiplash 00:31:00 Monetizing AI and Google Zero 00:37:00 Shopping Web Takes Over 00:39:00 Agents Replace Browsing 00:43:00 Canvas Makes Apps 00:49:00 Google Book Devices Pitch 00:51:00 Agents Break App Economics 00:53:00 Traffic Deal Is Over 01:01:00 Hype Desk Forza Horizon 6 01:07:00 Subnautica 2 Surprise Hit 01:11:00 Brendan Carr is a Dummy 01:14:00 Broadband Map Complaints 01:21:00 Spotify AI Whiplash 01:25:00 Deepfake Detection Reality 01:30:00 SpaceX IPO Breakdown 01:34:00 Trump Phone In Wild 01:37:00 Wrap Up And Plugs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hermes Agent: Agents that grow with you<p>Open Source AI is entering a new era, one shaped by self-improving AI Agents, recursive learning systems, and rapidly evolving AI Tools that blur the line between software and autonomous collaborators. In this episode, Daniel and Chris sit down with Nous Research co-founder and CTO Jeffrey Quesnelle to explore Hermes Agent. Along the way, they discuss models vs. harnesses, the changing role of developers, and one of the biggest questions facing the AI Future: what remains uniquely human as AI capabilities continue to accelerate?</p><p>Featuring:</p><ul><li>Jeffrey Quesnelle – <a href="https://jeffq.com/">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-quesnelle-2490a524/">LinkedIn</a></li><li>Chris Benson – <a href="https://chrisbenson.com/">Website</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisbenson">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/chrisbenson.bsky.social">Bluesky</a>, <a href="https://github.com/chrisbenson">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://x.com/chrisbenson">X</a></li><li>Daniel Whitenack – <a href="https://www.datadan.io/">Website</a>, <a href="https://github.com/dwhitena">GitHub</a>, <a href="https://x.com/dwhitena">X</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href="https://nousresearch.com/">Nous Research</a></li><li><a href="https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/">Hermes Agent</a></li></ul><p>Sponsors:</p><ul><li><strong>Framer: </strong>The enterprise-grade website builder that lets your team ship faster. Get 30% off at <a href="http://framer.com/practicalai">framer.com/practicalai</a></li><li><strong>Prediction Guard: </strong>A self-hosted AI control plane for running agents in high impact environments. <a href="https://predictionguard.com/practicalai">predictionguard.com/practicalai</a></li></ul><p>Upcoming Events: </p><ul><li>Register for <a href="https://practicalai.fm/webinars">upcoming webinars here</a>!</li><li><a href="https://midwestaisummit.com/">Midwest AI Summit 2026</a></li></ul>
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Intelligence is collective, not artificial — Prof. Michael I. Jordan (UC Berkeley / Inria)<p>Michael I. Jordan, described by Science magazine as the most influential computer scientist alive, has never thought of himself as an AI researcher. In this conversation he explains why that distinction matters.</p><p><br></p><p>SPONSOR:</p><p>---</p><p>Cyber Fund built the Monastery to help founders ship products that were impossible a year ago. Applications for Batch 1 are now open.</p><p>Apply now: https://cyber.fund</p><p>---</p><p><br></p><p>Jordan trained as a statistician and cognitive scientist, and his career has been spent building machine learning systems that work in the real world: supply chains, commerce, healthcare, and large economic systems. When the field rebranded itself as AI and then AGI, he did not follow. Instead he argues that the framing is wrong. AI is better understood as a collective economic system than as a race to build a disembodied superintelligence.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about why AGI is mostly a PR term, what machine learning achieved before the LLM hype cycle, and why the assistant-on-your-shoulder vision may be less compelling than it sounds. Jordan explains why explanations need to be actionable, not merely mechanistic; why AlphaFold's missing error bars matter; how prediction-powered inference changes the picture; and why drug discovery is an incentive-design problem rather than a pure pattern-matching problem.</p><p><br></p><p>ERRATA: Science magazine ranked him the most influential computer scientist, not Nature</p><p><br></p><p>---</p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>00:00:00 Cold open: A demoralizing message to young builders</p><p>00:02:04 CyberFund sponsor read</p><p>00:02:50 From symbolic AI to machine learning systems</p><p>00:05:42 Why AGI is mostly a PR term</p><p>00:08:48 A collectivist, economic perspective on AI</p><p>00:11:33 Why LLMs need system design, not hype</p><p>00:14:50 Predictability beats faux understanding</p><p>00:17:55 AlphaFold, bias, and prediction-powered inference</p><p>00:21:48 Stop anthropomorphizing intelligence</p><p>00:27:44 Drug discovery as an incentive problem</p><p>00:32:29 The three-layer data market</p><p>00:38:07 Social knowledge, markets, and culture</p><p>00:45:39 Creator economics beyond Spotify</p><p>00:48:30 How science-fiction AI narratives mislead young builders</p><p>00:51:45 AI should improve humans, not replace them</p><p>00:56:42 Safety is a property of the whole system</p><p>00:58:12 Silicon Valley gurus and the cream off the top</p><p>01:00:47 Game theory, mechanism design, and contracts</p><p>01:04:39 Conformal prediction, e-values, and anytime inference</p><p>01:08:11 A new liberal arts triangle for the AI era</p><p>01:11:30 The Bayesian duck and markets as uncertainty reduction</p><p><br></p><p>ReScript (transcript, PDF, refs etc) - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqazVER09RT0JfODhlN3RBS19mQm1SU0ZXZElRQXxBQ3Jtc0tucnR5SUZBZm5HN2NSLU01U2tYbDVJMlAzMXNhZHVmZmZGZ2J2QjBhcXFyZC1KNC1xS2U2ZjJ5b0JyOWd0UXoxbmxiWFd5TE1JZDlyMXNLLXZtUFAwTzRMaGNLNklrbERtM0lYRWtCTUlaNTk0WTRDWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fapp.rescript.info%2Fpublic%2Fshare%2Ffb68f94af29d3745c6cf6125e01328b5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://app.rescript.info/public/share/fb68f94af29d3745c6cf6125e01328b5</a></p><p>---</p><p>REFERENCES:</p><p>person:</p><p>[00:02:50] Michael I. Jordan (homepage)</p><p>https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~jordan/</p><p>paper:</p><p>[00:06:01] A Collectivist, Economic Perspective on AI</p><p>https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.06268</p><p>[00:18:09] AlphaFold</p><p>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03819-2</p><p>[00:20:36] Prediction-Powered Inference</p><p>https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.09633</p><p>[00:33:47] On Three-Layer Data Markets</p><p>https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.09697</p><p>[01:04:39] Conformal Prediction with Conditional Guarantees</p><p>https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.07511</p><p>[01:04:51] A Tutorial on Conformal Prediction</p><p>https://www.jmlr.org/papers/v9/shafer08a.html</p><p>[01:06:00] E-Values Expand the Scope of Conformal Prediction</p><p>https://arxiv.org/abs/2503.13050</p><p>[01:08:23] Computational Thinking</p><p>https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~CompThink/papers/Wing06.pdf</p><p>other:</p><p>[00:28:20] How Should the FDA Test?</p><p>https://rdi.berkeley.edu/events/sbc-assets/pdfs/Summit%20session%20speaker%20slides%20submission%20form-s1-5%20%28File%20responses%29/Slides%20in%20PDF%20%28Please%20name%20the%20submitted%20file%20as%20_firstname_-_lastname_-slides.pdf%29.%20%28File%20responses%29/27-Michael%20Jordan-Session%20V.pdf#page=15</p><p>[00:28:40] Michael I. Jordan Session V Slides</p><p><truncated, see ReScript link or YT VD></p>
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Google I/O Reactions, Large IPOs Incoming, Figma's AI Assistant | Dylan Field, Brian Chesky, Feross Aboukhadijeh, Tae Kim, Immad Akhund, Marcus Milione<p></p><ul><li>(01:25) - Google I/O Reactions </li> <li>(25:45) - SpaceX IPO </li> <li>(28:17) - Dylan Field, CEO and founder of Figma, discusses the impact of AI on design, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a balanced perspective amidst rapid technological changes. He introduces Figma's Design Agent, an AI tool designed to assist designers by automating routine tasks, thereby allowing them to focus on more creative aspects of their work. Field also highlights the significance of integrating design and code representations, aiming to eliminate false trade-offs between direct manipulation and AI-driven processes. </li> <li>(48:30) - Feross Aboukhadijeh is an entrepreneur and programmer, known for founding Socket, a developer-first security platform that safeguards software supply chains. In the conversation, he discusses Socket's recent $60 million Series C funding at a $1 billion valuation, the escalating challenges in software supply chain security due to increased code generation by AI and the exploitation of open-source dependencies, and introduces "certified patches," a solution designed to efficiently address vulnerabilities in open-source code. </li> <li>(58:55) - Tae Kim, a seasoned finance professional and Senior Portfolio Strategist at Rockefeller Capital Management, discusses the robust growth and undervaluation of NVIDIA, the strategic challenges facing Google in AI, and the potential market impact of SpaceX's anticipated IPO. </li> <li>(01:26:55) - Immad Akhund, a British-Pakistani entrepreneur and angel investor, is the co-founder and CEO of Mercury, a fintech platform serving startups. In the conversation, he announces Mercury's recent $200 million funding round led by TCV, discusses the company's significant growth driven by AI-driven business formations, and highlights the increasing role of large language model (LLM) recommendations in attracting new customers. </li> <li>(01:38:35) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions </li> <li>(01:44:23) - Brian Chesky, co-founder and CEO of Airbnb, discusses the company's recent expansion into new services, including grocery delivery, airport pickups, car rentals, and boutique hotel bookings. He explains that these additions aim to enhance the guest experience by offering greater convenience and a more comprehensive travel ecosystem. Chesky also highlights the company's efforts to rebuild its foundation to support these services and emphasizes the importance of listening to customer feedback to drive innovation. </li> <li>(02:04:27) - Marcus Milione, founder of Minted New York, transitioned from a career in commercial real estate to establish a brand that blends premium menswear, performance athletic apparel, endurance nutrition, and Italian-crafted jewelry. In the conversation, he discusses his journey from posting fashion and fitness content on social media during the COVID-19 pandemic to building a community-driven brand, emphasizing the importance of organic growth, customer engagement, and maintaining authenticity in product development. </li> <li>(02:28:41) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions</li> </ul><p><br></p><p>Follow TBPN: </p><p>https://TBPN.com</p><p>https://x.com/tbpn</p><p>https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231</p><p>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive</p>
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SpaceX's $2T Case, Nvidia's Shock Selloff, America Turns on AI, Trump Pulls AI Order, Bond Crisis?<p>(0:00) Gavin Baker joins the show!</p> <p>(0:30) Andrej Karpathy joins Anthropic; hypergrowth and profitability</p> <p>(12:42) Why Americans have turned on AI, anti-human perception</p> <p>(27:22) Trump pulls AI EO, US-China AI relationship, dystopian AI layoffs</p> <p>(45:19) SpaceX S-1 tear down! Breaking down the three major businesses and the case for a $2T valuation</p> <p>(1:11:22) Nvidia smashes earnings but stock falls, why people are shorting chips</p> <p>(1:22:25) Market update: Flashing red signals, oil, inflation, yields up</p> <p>(1:32:45) China trip flops, or was progress made behind the scenes?</p> <p>Follow Gavin Baker:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/GavinSBaker">https://x.com/GavinSBaker</a></p> <p>Apply for Summit 2026:</p> <p><a href= "https://allin.com/events">https://allin.com/events</a></p> <p>Follow the besties:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/chamath">https://x.com/chamath</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/Jason">https://x.com/Jason</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/DavidSacks">https://x.com/DavidSacks</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/friedberg">https://x.com/friedberg</a></p> <p>Follow on X:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/theallinpod">https://x.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on Instagram:</p> <p><a href= 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"https://github.com/multica-ai/andrej-karpathy-skills/stargazers">https://github.com/multica-ai/andrej-karpathy-skills/stargazers</a></p> <p><a href= "https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/openai-co-founder-andrej-karpathy-joins-anthropics-pre-training-team"> https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/openai-co-founder-andrej-karpathy-joins-anthropics-pre-training-team</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mind-blowing-growth-is-about-to-propel-anthropic-into-its-first-profitable-quarter-7edbf2f4"> https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mind-blowing-growth-is-about-to-propel-anthropic-into-its-first-profitable-quarter-7edbf2f4</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1dxYljYVREYJX">https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1dxYljYVREYJX</a></p> <p><a href= "https://apnews.com/article/trump-ai-executive-order-ee318f35acc8a2c43e47f3ebf26cb459"> https://apnews.com/article/trump-ai-executive-order-ee318f35acc8a2c43e47f3ebf26cb459</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/wallstengine/status/2057378437485216031">https://x.com/wallstengine/status/2057378437485216031</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/2056842597117636890">https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/2056842597117636890</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/lulumeservey/status/2057239284487201043">https://x.com/lulumeservey/status/2057239284487201043</a></p> <p><a href= "https://polymarket.com/event/spacex-ipo-closing-market-cap-above">https://polymarket.com/event/spacex-ipo-closing-market-cap-above</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2057228707606196434">https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2057228707606196434</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm"> https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm</a></p> <p><a href= "https://s201.q4cdn.com/141608511/files/doc_financials/2027/Q127/NVDA-F1Q27-Quarterly-Presentation-FINAL.pdf"> https://s201.q4cdn.com/141608511/files/doc_financials/2027/Q127/NVDA-F1Q27-Quarterly-Presentation-FINAL.pdf</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/leopold-aschenbrenner-investment-shift-agi-over-ai-chips-1797606"> https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/leopold-aschenbrenner-investment-shift-agi-over-ai-chips-1797606</a></p> <p><a href= "https://polymarket.com/event/may-inflation-us-annual">https://polymarket.com/event/may-inflation-us-annual</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/15/inflation-rate-projected-to-hit-6percent-in-the-second-quarter-top-economic-forecasters-say.html"> https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/15/inflation-rate-projected-to-hit-6percent-in-the-second-quarter-top-economic-forecasters-say.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://polymarket.com/event/fed-rate-hike-in-2026">https://polymarket.com/event/fed-rate-hike-in-2026</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/18/treasury-yields-inflation-bond-rout-oil.html"> https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/18/treasury-yields-inflation-bond-rout-oil.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y">https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y</a></p>
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AI Weekly Briefing: Is NVIDIA Finally Getting Real Competition?Cerebras went public at a $95 billion market cap, the biggest tech IPO since Snowflake and the first pure-play AI hardware listing of this cycle. The reference point for every NVIDIA challenger just got a lot more expensive. Plus, Anthropic's reportedly closing a $30 billion raise at a $900 billion valuation, which puts it level with OpenAI and ends the smaller-alternative framing for good. Cisco posted record AI orders and announced 4,000 layoffs in the same week, which is starting to feel like the new normal. Notion is pitching itself as an agent hub rather than a documents tool. And Microsoft's M-DASH multi-agent system beat Anthropic on a cybersecurity benchmark using more than 100 coordinated agents, which suggests the winning pattern isn't one giant model. It's a team of smaller ones doing specific jobs well. We'll also touch on Anthropic going downmarket with Claude for Small Business, Boomi's on-prem agent runtime aimed at regulated buyers, and why Mustafa Suleyman's claim that AI will automate most professional work in 12 to 18 months lands awkwardly against Copilot's 3.3% paid seat share.